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Quote:Yes. Welcome to real world, not all lives are equally valuable. Don't like it - why not start your own pharma company and we'll see how that will work? Actually that is a very good idea, I can...
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Incidentally, wasn't it Bayer whose aspirin was found to be causing people to have heart attacks?
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I would like to point out that these studies use a well known statistical dodge. They have combined marketing and administration in the same bin. It makes for a nice sound bite but the true amount they...
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One thing I like to point out, inside a society with very low levels of education that patent thing may work because others don't know better, but inside a society with very large numbers of educated...
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The artificially high price-fixing speaks volumes about what the medical/pharmaceutical companies' main priority is. Health care is fast becoming something exclusively for the rich.
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if it were the US in need and, say, a Chinese company with the patents, would the US side with the foreign company or our local population? The obvious answer is that the US government would side with...
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">> Are Patents the best way of promoting progress? No, but this is irrelevant question. Companies use patents to recoup huge certification costs. Don't like this process - fight to lower...
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Except that they don't always take all the financial risk to develop new drugs. There are a lot of smaller labs that are doing the research and clinical trials for drugs that they developed and then...
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>> I can see a future where everybody produce their own medicine Please share stuff you're smoking. Did you produced it by yourself?
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>> Do you give to charity? No. Does it make me evil? Of cause not, but you seems to think so. >> The Indian government obviously made a decision that they considered the lives of their...
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">> Do you give to charity? No. Does it make me evil? Of cause not, but you seems to think so." Not at all, just giving an example of where people in the real world put profit second. No evil was...
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Main priority of any company is profit. It's up to your government to make sure they don't hurt (too many) people in the process. If, for example, Smith-And-Wesson are making people-killing devices,...
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A future where people come together to help one another out? With 3D printers that use chemicals instead of materials? Balderdash!
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When individuals don't pay the actual cost of health care then they don't care how much it costs. "Insurance covers it." or "The government picks up the tab." I won't shop around for the best price,...
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Basic research is (often) government-sponsored. But the initial discovery cost is nearly neglectable, when compared to the development costs. Real, today money are poured in in the clinical trials,...
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Perhaps I am commenting because I have at various times represented drug companies is domestic and international patent matters, beginning from the commencement of R&D, through FDA approval, and...
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Reduce marketing. If it is a good drug then word of mouth is going to be best. That is we're half the cost for the drug goes.
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"Main priority of any company is profit. It's up to your government to make sure they don't hurt (too many) people in the process." Yes but the pharmaceutical corps' pricing is well beyond excessive....
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How about making clinical trials less costly? Patientslikeme just proved they can do equally or better than traditional means, open source software for that exact purpose is appearing at staggering...
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Mostly the effects you refer to, about acetylsalicylic acid comes down to dosage not impurities, how is that an insurmountable problem in any way form or shape?
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"When individuals don't pay the actual cost of health care then they don't care how much it costs. 'Insurance covers it.' or 'The government picks up the tab.' I won't shop around for the best price,...
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Quote:Do it your self bio-engineering with designer Tuur van Balen. Presented at the Next Nature Power Show 2011 in Amsterdam. Youtube: Tuur van Balen - Hacking Yoghurt There was a time that you needed...
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Quote:Do it your self bio-engineering with designer Tuur van Balen. Presented at the Next Nature Power Show 2011 in Amsterdam. Youtube: Tuur van Balen - Hacking Yoghurt There was a time that you needed...
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Why are you commenting on a subject you don't appear to know much about? speaking of...can we get a follow up on the facebook IPO post. ty, tyvm.
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No one could be as soulless as you're pretending to be. Do you believe in the concept of right and wrong - that some things should not be done, even if they're profitable because they might hurt...
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>> Do you give to charity? No. Does it make me evil? Of cause not, but you seems to think so. Yes. That's the definition of evil.
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Quote:Some health care IS exclusivity for the rich. That's one of reasons people want to be rich in a first place. Again, it's up to your government to determine limits of such exclusivity. True some...
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It's up to your government to make sure they don't hurt (too many) people in the process. No it isn't. Not hurting others is everyone's responsibility.
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That is exactly why forcing people to get insurance is a bad idea. People need to realize that they are responsible for the quality of care that they receive and taking away the decision to do so, does...
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Western pharmaceutical companies and their shareholders may rejoice if that happens, but many of those in emerging economies who are unable to afford life-saving medicines will die as a result. Seems...
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That's even cheaper than Natco's price of $163, to say nothing of Bayer's $5,128 for the same course. And we all know just how poor a lot of these people are in a lot of these Nations.Of all the nerve...
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Has any investigation been done on who funds or has interests in Cipla? Has it received any money from Bayer? Just tossing out some conspiracy theories that Cipla may just be the thin edge of a wedge...
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All this talk about federal funding, be it via contract or cooperative agreement or grant, would to a large degree be ameliorated if only those who rail against private sector companies took the time...
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Forgot I made a very brief comment earlier in this thread. Nevertheless, this comment is a bit more detailed in that it provides citations to relevant statutes and regulations that come into play when...
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>> Are Patents the best way of promoting progress? No, but this is irrelevant question. It's one of the most relevant questions, as promoting progress is the sole Constitutional purpose of the...
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>> Do you give to charity? No. Does it make me evil? Nope. Will you excuse me if I value profits of my $company (not US-based, don't worry) more that lives of entire Africa? This makes you evil.
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nobody today would be able to afford anything if they weren't insured, that is the problem with the system today True, and also very few people can afford treatment for really serious injury or illness...
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What the law is today is a far cry from what it should be and still doesn't justify what it does and what the US government do to others to force that vision upon them.
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There's a pretty big difference between a person's net monetary worth and their value to society. Or are you responsible for several children and elderly people who might starve if you die? That's the...
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Not in the elitist, almost eugenicist way Ifroen was implying. Determining human worth through money alone is simplistic, classist, and a good way to completely miss the point of why the Indian...
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There is a special circle of hell for those who profit from the suffering of others. Bayer has made more than enough on this drug already to recoup their cost of development (which probably consists of...
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Thank you for at least citing where you believe us to be wrong. I'll have a look at that late and get back to you, okay? :)
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Mike, you're the one who doesn't know much about pharmaceuticals at all. The "pharma companies don't do key research, they just swoop in" argument is one of the key signs of a crank who doesn't...
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